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James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - Rzarector7 - 07-03-2012 04:19 PM

For some reason noises seem louder and more annoying then usual! I have had noises bother me since a kid and gotten tics so to speak, they always caused some anxiety rushes as well! Now the noises from say a trashcan shutting or car door slamming or droors in the house seem to drive me crazy! I can't explain it but it causes immense anxiety it seems! Like I said I have had this problem since a youth but it seems to have gotten alot worse lately.

If there is any explanation for noises bothering and causing severe anxiety please let me know? The letter S in the alphabet when someone speaks seems to bother me even! Clocks ticking.


If you can help please. Another thing Astragalus root and certain anti fungals seem to make it alot worse! I took astragalus today and boom the symptoms are pretty bad.


RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - James - 07-03-2012 10:39 PM

(07-03-2012 04:19 PM)Rzarector7 Wrote:  For some reason noises seem louder and more annoying then usual! I have had noises bother me since a kid and gotten tics so to speak, they always caused some anxiety rushes as well! Now the noises from say a trashcan shutting or car door slamming or droors in the house seem to drive me crazy! I can't explain it but it causes immense anxiety it seems! Like I said I have had this problem since a youth but it seems to have gotten alot worse lately.

If there is any explanation for noises bothering and causing severe anxiety please let me know? The letter S in the alphabet when someone speaks seems to bother me even! Clocks ticking.


If you can help please. Another thing Astragalus root and certain anti fungals seem to make it alot worse! I took astragalus today and boom the symptoms are pretty bad.

This question came up before to me. Here is a copy of my response:

What you are referring to with the sound sensitivity is called hyperacusis. The exact mechanism is unknown, but it is believed to involve a problem with the auditory nerve. There is a long list of things that can contribute to the problem including being a side effect of some medications. Out of what you mentioned this is the only thing I see that could be a contributing factor. More information may provide other possibilities, but most involve exposure to loud noises to begin with or some other form of trauma.

The motion sensitivity can also stem from inner ear issues.

Have you tried a neurotransmitter inhibitor such as glycine to see if this helps?



RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - Rzarector7 - 07-03-2012 11:03 PM

I have heard of hyperacusis! I read on this years go and knew I had it then. I have no clue where it started, maybe a gunshot my mom accidently fired in the house from a shotgun as a kid? She showed me a shotgun and my dad never kept it loaded! That day it was and she blew a hole in the bathroom and my ears rang for quite a while! I remember that, this was before the hyperacusis so maybe it is connected?

My second thing is it is yeast or parasite connected or even heavy metals from my mouth? Either or can that or any of those cause it? I am not sure on that end, I know Lymes can cause these things or be a huge factor but....... I said I had this as a kid, I had none of these as a kid so? They got worse aftera loud noise possibly? Is that possible that the gunshot or a noise could do this? Cause stress and anxiety from noise later?

I have always had some OCD and so on, thats been me since a kid, but the noises was the worst by far! They always bothered me since around 1986 or so (I am 34 now), since then I have had noises bother me somewhat! I tell you what worked one time sides magnesiuim James! I took some Ginkgo for months and one day uppped it to a few capsules, well guess what noises no longer bothered me at all! That day I did not get bothered by the noises! Maybe like you said it's nerve related and this helped out alot? Would Ginkgo and Gotu Kola help out alot with this? Ginkgo that time when taking it did wonders it seemed and I maybe should have kept it up, it that day literally helped to a point where I nearly felt normal hearing wise.
James the more I read on this does this seem possible? I mean page turning and water running etc. fit me to a T, it is possible of Lymes? I react to Teasel Root like crazy and so on, so is it possible Lymes could cause this here? I have read alot on it and seem to think it is possible. http://www.lymeinfo.net/hyperacusis.html

Read this for me, it fits me to a T on the noises.


RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - James - 07-03-2012 11:57 PM

(07-03-2012 11:03 PM)Rzarector7 Wrote:  I have heard of hyperacusis! I read on this years go and knew I had it then. I have no clue where it started, maybe a gunshot my mom accidently fired in the house from a shotgun as a kid? She showed me a shotgun and my dad never kept it loaded! That day it was and she blew a hole in the bathroom and my ears rang for quite a while! I remember that, this was before the hyperacusis so maybe it is connected?

I doubt if this happening as a child would lead to this as an adult.

My second thing is it is yeast or parasite connected or even heavy metals from my mouth? Either or can that or any of those cause it?

Again I doubt it. These things have never been linked.

I am not sure on that end, I know Lymes can cause these things or be a huge factor but....... I said I had this as a kid, I had none of these as a kid so? They got worse aftera loud noise possibly? Is that possible that the gunshot or a noise could do this? Cause stress and anxiety from noise later?

Stress can be a factor since this can contribute to tinnitus associated with hyperacusis.

You really need to look at your more recent history when this started. For example, any head trauma? Did you take antibiotics around the time this started or other medications?

I have always had some OCD and so on,

Neurotransmitter inhibitors such as glycine can also help with OCD.

thats been me since a kid, but the noises was the worst by far! They always bothered me since around 1986 or so (I am 34 now), since then I have had noises bother me somewhat! I tell you what worked one time sides magnesiuim James! I took some Ginkgo for months and one day uppped it to a few capsules, well guess what noises no longer bothered me at all!

Both magnesium and ginkgo help dilate blood vessels improving circulation. And decreased circulation can lead to tinnitus associated with hyperacusis. So you may be on to something here. Some of the things that decrease circulation include stress, diabetes, smoking, hypothyroidism and elevated serum calcium.

That day I did not get bothered by the noises! Maybe like you said it's nerve related and this helped out alot? Would Ginkgo and Gotu Kola help out alot with this?

Both do increase circulation. And gotu kola is great for the nerves as well.

If you can find it the herb periwinkle (Vinca minor) is the most effective herb for this.

And again, magnesium also works. But you should use acidfied forms, which are better absorbed. I prefer magnesium malate followed by magnesium citrate.

Something else you can try is to address any possible myelin damage, which could also be a contributing factor. The best nutrients here are lecithin granules, fish oil concentrates and B12. Myelin regeneration is slow so it make take months to see results.

Ginkgo that time when taking it did wonders it seemed and I maybe should have kept it up, it that day literally helped to a point where I nearly felt normal hearing wise.
James the more I read on this does this seem possible? I mean page turning and water running etc. fit me to a T, it is possible of Lymes? I react to Teasel Root like crazy and so on, so is it possible Lymes could cause this here? I have read alot on it and seem to think it is possible. http://www.lymeinfo.net/hyperacusis.html

Read this for me, it fits me to a T on the noises.

One problem I have is that I have always felt that Lyme, like amalgam poisoning, is way over diagnosed. Antibody tests used to test for Lyme are not even close to being accurate.

Being that things that have helped circulation seem to be helping I would keep focusing on circulation enhancement first and also on myelin regeneration just in case there is any nerve damage.



RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - Rzarector7 - 07-04-2012 10:59 AM

Hyperacusis

Hyperacusis is defined as a reduced tolerance to normal environmental sounds and everyday sounds become unbearably or painfully loud. In short, hyperacusis refers to the increased sensitivity to sound. People with hyperacusis feel as though the volume control in their brain is stuck on HIGH! The alteration in the central processing of sound often associates with Hyperacusis.

People suffering from hyperacusis have been somehow exposed to loud noises. Your ears loose most of their ability to deal with quick shifts in sound capacity (loudness). This results in a sudden intolerance to sound that is not 'really' noisy. Normal sounds suddenly become irritating and painful to tolerate.

Hyperacusis is a disturbing condition that usually results in lack of concentration and low productivity. Hyperacusis can also be known as any of the following:
•Dysacusis
•Oxylacusis
•Hypersensitive hearing
•Phonophobia

However, not all sounds of the same loudness (number of decibels) cause discomfort, but only sounds within a certain range, thus a small change of frequency may cause discomfort at low volume. Most individuals with hyperacusis have difficulty tolerating sounds which do not seem loud to others such as:
•Dishwasher
•Running faucet
•Riding in a car
•Walking on leaves
•Ticking of the clock
•Doors shutting

It is more prevalent in females, but hyperacusis can affect people of all ages and is sometimes accompanied by "ringing in the ears" (tinnitus). It can affect one or both ears. People with hyperacusis are not born sound sensitive, but develop a collapsed tolerance to sound from primarily noise trauma.

What causes Hyperacusis?




Little is known about hyperacusis because it is very rare. However, its onset often is associated with:


Damaged cochlea

The most suspect of Hyperacusis cause is damage to the cochlea (the cochlea is a coiled, tapered tube inside the inner ear, responsible for transmitting sound to the sensory organ of hearing) due to exposure to loud noises such as:
• Gun shots
• Fireworks
• Loudspeakers at music concerts

Incorrect ear wax removal

ENT specialists are the only people who can best help remove excess ear wax. Most people damage their ear drums while incorrectly attempting to remove excess wax at home. General practitioners and nurses that are not skilled in this field may also not perform the procedure of ear wax removal.

The shock and noise of the ear wax removal if not correctly done, is a major cause of hyperacusis and noise induced tinnitus.

Other causes of hyperacusis include:
•Head injury
•Lyme disease
•A sudden single burst of noise
•Air bag deployment
•The side effects of drugs
•Surgery to the face or jaw
•A gun shot blast

Hyperacusis patients find that their condition is worsened not only when they are exposed to noise, but also when they go too far to protect their ears from it. Silence can worsen the condition.

How long does Hyperacusis last for?






Since hyperacusis is a chronic disorder, it usually lasts approximately 8 - 12 weeks depending on the severity of the attack. However, even if severe, hyperacusis does not last longer than 24 weeks. If in any case symptoms show up after this period, other illnesses might have developed.

There are three other conditions that have similar characteristics where normal sounds are TOO LOUD to stand. Here are those conditions:
• Hyperacute hearing
•Recruitment
•Phonophobia
Hyperacute Hearing

It is a rare condition where a person can hear certain sounds at a much softer volume than a person with normal hearing. So if these sounds are even of a reasonable loudness, they can seem very loud.

Recruitment

Recruitment is a by product of hearing loss (sensorineural hearing loss). A person usually perceives volume increases much faster than the actual volume increase. This causes the sounds to rapidly become too loud to stand. Click here for more on Recruitment.
Phonophobia

This is a mental condition where people become afraid of certain sounds that they associate with bad things. They usually perceive these sounds as much louder than they really are.

It says up there a Gunshot blast James, which I linked it to or around that time as a child! Thats around the time when the noises started to bother me. You asked about drugs, I took antibiotics in high school quite a few times but I already had Hyperacusis by then. I had a time or a year in high school when it seemed to go away or got alot better, I had a change of Diet though and cut out quite a few things or ate them rarely (I ate red meat rarely and stuff like that) and added Bannana's apples and other things to daily diet (Ate fish too a few times a week) so diet can really control it. I need to rule out things like lymes as well since antibacterial things seem to make me get worse! The symptoms get worse when I take them (Teasel Root, Olive leaf etc.).

I am interested to learn more on this and treat it. I have my work cut out for me with this thing, determined to get better.


RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - James - 07-04-2012 05:12 PM

(07-04-2012 10:59 AM)Rzarector7 Wrote:  It says up there a Gunshot blast James, which I linked it to or around that time as a child! Thats around the time when the noises started to bother me. You asked about drugs, I took antibiotics in high school quite a few times but I already had Hyperacusis by then. I had a time or a year in high school when it seemed to go away or got alot better, I had a change of Diet though and cut out quite a few things or ate them rarely (I ate red meat rarely and stuff like that) and added Bannana's apples and other things to daily diet (Ate fish too a few times a week) so diet can really control it. I need to rule out things like lymes as well since antibacterial things seem to make me get worse! The symptoms get worse when I take them (Teasel Root, Olive leaf etc.).

I am interested to learn more on this and treat it. I have my work cut out for me with this thing, determined to get better.

I thought this was more of a recent development. I did not realize that this was from childhood.

So there could be some inner ear damage from the trauma to the ear when the gun went off.

I still recommend working on the myelin in case there is nerve damage.

The circulation enhancers can still help as well.

And one other thing that may help is juniper berry, which strengthens the nerves throughout the body. Generally herbs are best taken on an empty stomach. With juniper berry though have a little something in your stomach since the juniper berries drop blood sugar like crazy.



RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - Rzarector7 - 07-04-2012 06:13 PM

James how do you go about the Sheathing being healed? I read that Spirulina was very good and Primrose or Flaxseed oil as well, and something called Nerve X they took along with it to nourish the Nerves. What do you recommend? I read these things above go a ways in healing the nervous system from this.

The Nerve Control (formally RE-X), Spirulina, Flaxseed oil have seemed to be praised by them. Most report to me that they are symptom free within 9 months.


This is what I read they took and after 9 months they were symptom free after healing the sheating of the nerves.




More on it.

The most common nutrients suggested for someone with a thin myelin are flaxseed oil, spirulina (a blue-green algae rich in protein, essential amino-acids and vitamin B12) and a nervine combination (a mixture of herbs known to nutritionally support the nervous system.)

"Most people do not report improvement for at least 2 months after they have gotten to the optimum level of nutrients (increasing the nervine combo until they are dreaming nightly). And it seems you need anther 4 months after that before the difference is significant."


Thank you for this though, I am getting somewhere now.


RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - James - 07-05-2012 04:51 AM

(07-04-2012 06:13 PM)Rzarector7 Wrote:  James how do you go about the Sheathing being healed?

I answered that earlier in this thread, post #4.

I read that Spirulina

The main thing in spirulina that could help would be the fatty acids. But there are better sources.

was very good and Primrose

I tend to stay away from primrose oil since a lot of it extracted with the solvent hexane.

or Flaxseed oil as well,

Again this is due to the fatty acids, but if you can ever tolerate fish oil this is still the best. Or maybe try an EPA/DHA powdered concentrate from fish oil.

and something called Nerve X they took along with it to nourish the Nerves.

Have not heard of this product.

What do you recommend?

Again, lecithin is the most important. Use the granules, not the liquid or softgels. Next in importance is the fatty acids, especially the EPA and DHA. And finally B12 in its active form of methylcobalamin. A sublingual supplement would be the best.

I read these things above go a ways in healing the nervous system from this.

The Nerve Control (formally RE-X), Spirulina, Flaxseed oil have seemed to be praised by them. Most report to me that they are symptom free within 9 months.


This is what I read they took and after 9 months they were symptom free after healing the sheating of the nerves.

They are referring to the myelin sheath that insulates the nerves. Myelin is around 80% lecithin, which is why I recommend the lecithin granules first.


More on it.

The most common nutrients suggested for someone with a thin myelin are flaxseed oil, spirulina (a blue-green algae rich in protein,

Half of that is true. Spirulina is not really an algae. It is a cyanobacteria. But it is rich in protein being around 90% protein.

essential amino-acids and vitamin B12)

The B12 in spirulina is actually a B12 analogue, not true B12.

and a nervine combination (a mixture of herbs known to nutritionally support the nervous system.)

"Most people do not report improvement for at least 2 months after they have gotten to the optimum level of nutrients (increasing the nervine combo until they are dreaming nightly). And it seems you need anther 4 months after that before the difference is significant."

It does take quite a while to regenerate myelin. In fact, regeneration is slow slow that it was not that long ago that the medical system thought that it did not regenerate at all.

Thank you for this though, I am getting somewhere now.

You're welcome.



RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - Rzarector7 - 07-05-2012 10:36 PM

I got some Sunflower Lecithin today since I am allergic to Soy (I am so upset I can't use the granules as they are the best! Why is this detoxing the hech out of me? I don't think it's an allergy but the mind is very foggy like all detox and I feel like crap! Does this detox at all? Once again I have had allergies before and this sure makes you feel like you have one but it's more of a detox than any itching or rashes etc. I never know Lecithin can detox you, would some Vitamin C rich herb like Amla help out with this?

I plan on adding the Gotu Kola herb, Sunflower Lecithin, Sub B12 and Chlorella (Read that helps alot too) to this regime to help heal the myelin. Can I add some Cayenne too to help with absorbtion or would Cinnamon (real ceylon) do the same or better? I do better on Cinnamon it seems or Ginger! Turmeric might work as well but you said it's poorly absorbed on the other board? I love that spice! I would love to take that above all of those.

Like I said I would love to take the granules but the Sunflower seems to work fast! I am not allergic to it as well or hope not! I get a headache or slight one after using it, once again probably detoxing but what if it is not anti fungal? Would breaking down fats like it is supposed to in the liver etc. cause this realease of toxins? It is very very strong tonight, I took a few capsules and I am having the old detox I usually get from a good strong product that works so maybe this is a keeper. Maybe I will cut down to one capsule tomorrow night while not at work and work up slowly, sounds the way I need to go usually.


RE: James I am having a problem with noises bothering me. - James - 07-05-2012 11:36 PM

(07-05-2012 10:36 PM)Rzarector7 Wrote:  I got some Sunflower Lecithin today since I am allergic to Soy (I am so upset I can't use the granules as they are the best! Why is this detoxing the hech out of me? I don't think it's an allergy but the mind is very foggy like all detox and I feel like crap!

Again mental fogginess can have a number of causes including stressing the adrenals leading to hypothyroidism. Have you ever done your basal body temperature readings to make sure it is not from hypothyroidism?

As for allergies, allergies can manifest with different symptoms. It is not always things people normally think of such as sneezing, itching and hives.


Does this detox at all?

Lecithin only removes excess cholesterol.

Once again I have had allergies before and this sure makes you feel like you have one but it's more of a detox than any itching or rashes etc. I never know Lecithin can detox you, would some Vitamin C rich herb like Amla help out with this?

Lecithin is not really a detoxifier. The only thing it really breaks down and removes are fats like cholesterol.

Taking vitamin C rich foods will not hurt and will help if it is a form of allergic response.


I plan on adding the Gotu Kola herb, Sunflower Lecithin, Sub B12 and Chlorella (Read that helps alot too) to this regime to help heal the myelin. Can I add some Cayenne too to help with absorbtion or would Cinnamon (real ceylon) do the same or better? I do better on Cinnamon it seems or Ginger! Turmeric might work as well but you said it's poorly absorbed on the other board? I love that spice! I would love to take that above all of those.

Lecithin is an emulsifier, so it will help with the absorption of the fatty acids from the chlorella. Sublingual B12 does not need an absorption enhancer since it bypasses the digestive system. If you want to increase the absorption of the gotu kola then the best way of doing this is with saponin rich herbs. A few really good choices are schisandra berry and yucca root (Yucca schidegra). Both of these herbs not only enhance the absorption of other herbs and nutrients they both also support the adrenals, which is going to be very important.

Like I said I would love to take the granules but the Sunflower seems to work fast! I am not allergic to it as well or hope not! I get a headache or slight one after using it, once again probably detoxing but what if it is not anti fungal?

Lecithin is going to be slightly anti-fungal due to its sterol content. But the content is rather low so the effect is not that strong. the highest sterol content I have seen in any plant is from Gynostemma (jiaogulan) followed by yucca root.

Would breaking down fats like it is supposed to in the liver etc. cause this realease of toxins?

Yes, that is possible. Fats do store a variety of "toxins" that can be released back in to the bloodstream as they are broken down. In short the liver can only process a certain amount of toxins at a time. If the level of toxins in the body exceeds what the liver is capable of dealing with at any given time the excess toxins can poison the body. To protect itself the excess toxins can be stored in fat until a later time when the liver is capable of dealing with these toxins. This is also why people tend to get sick when they start breaking down body fat too quick such as when going on prolonged fasts.

It is very very strong tonight, I took a few capsules and I am having the old detox I usually get from a good strong product that works so maybe this is a keeper. Maybe I will cut down to one capsule tomorrow night while not at work and work up slowly, sounds the way I need to go usually.